Episode 190 - How Staying Consistent Can Change Your Life

This week, our host Caz sits down with Sipping & Selling Podcast for an authentic discussion about life since 2020, podcasting, building brands, and more.

We get into conversation about the origin of CIVWYP, how it was built from the ground up, and what it took to remain a top 5% podcast over the last six years. We also touch on the importance of staying consistent and committed to everything you're passionate about.

Later, we discuss brand building and how wine fell into our lives. Whether you're a fan of this podcast or just need a boost in motivation, this episode is for you. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:04

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Sippin' and Selling with Joey Chanel.

SPEAKER_01 0:13

Welcome back to a very special episode of Sippin' and Sellin'. I have my first fellow podcast guest, Kaz from Can I Vibe with Y'all podcast on my show today. Welcome, Kaz.

SPEAKER_02 0:25

Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_02 0:27

I'm used to hearing like the you need the trumpets.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

That always reminds me of every favorite reggaetone song that I like.

SPEAKER_02 0:35

Oh, we can get into that. We got to get into that.

SPEAKER_01 0:39

I know. Well, if you guys aren't familiar with Kaz, please make sure you're following him on Instagram. His podcast is legit. I love it. I'm always watching all the reels. Specifically, what we're referencing is that he likes to put on some tunes, and you and your buddies love to like sing or dance along, which is so fun. What made you think to do that?

SPEAKER_02 0:58

Um, yeah, so my name is Kaz, and we love music. Um, it didn't necessarily start as that, but I think music is universal. And one day we were just because kind of like this, like we have conversations too, but we're like, you know, let's just play a song real quick. And then we played the song. It was like an unofficial cut, but then we cut it into a clip, and that went super viral, and we were like, oh, we should do this again. And we just fell in love with the process of it. So fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:29

Those are the ones I look forward to. But you have been doing this for almost I guess six years now.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

Six years, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

Wild. Happy anniversary. That's crazy. I hope to aspire to make it to six years myself. This is my first year in.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

First year in?

SPEAKER_01 1:42

First year in.

SPEAKER_02 1:43

Oh, you're killing it.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

Oh, thanks.

SPEAKER_02 1:45

This look at look at this.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

Listen, we try. We try here at Podcast Junkies. We try to look official like a referee with a whistle. But yeah, I wanted to invite you on because usually I talk about people's sipping and selling stories. So most of the guests that I have are from the liquor business. And I've listened to some of your episodes, and I know that you've you're very seasoned in different professions.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

You were a teacher, you thought it's a delivery man, you did it, you did it all.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

But you worked with my partner, Chain, Total Wine, and I want to know about that experience. You were there for eight months, you said. Yes. That got my attention, and also one of your interview guests got my attention. You had um Mr. Brett on from Stop and Brands.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

Oh, shout out to Brett. Shout out to Brett.

SPEAKER_01 2:30

That was one of my first episodes I listened to.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Yes, good man.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

Oh, yeah, he seems like a good dude. I don't know him personally. So, yes, you got into working at Total Wine, and what made you do that in which location? Was it the 904 Fort Lauderdale?

SPEAKER_02 2:43

Wow. Wow. I'm official.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

You're exposing me.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Um, I can't say it's something I wanted to do, honestly. Um, my dad actually worked in the liquor industry way back when.

SPEAKER_03 2:57

What did he do?

SPEAKER_02 2:58

He was, I don't know if he was a distributor. This was like in the 80s. I can't remember. But that's okay. He worked for Empire.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

Oh, really? In New York?

SPEAKER_02 3:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

So he definitely knew my father then because my brother still works there.

SPEAKER_02 3:11

Oh, does he?

SPEAKER_01 3:11

No shit. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

He might, he might, because we're originally from New York.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

That's hilarious. Me too. Oh small world. Look at this connection. It's meant to be meant to be. That's hilarious. Yeah, we're gonna have to talk offline about that.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

You definitely will. Oh, I love it.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

Okay, so it was kind of in the DNA.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

Um, no, actually. Um, this was I I had already graduated uh from college. I'm like trying to figure out it's like a little bit after COVID, so things got kind of weird.

SPEAKER_00 3:42

No kidding.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

Um and yeah, I mentioned in there that I was three years into doing the podcast, and you know, obviously, you you know, this is not something I went to school for or learned. I'm just I'm learning as I go. Um, and then you know, I just wanted to take a chance on it. It was blowing up, it was doing well. I was like, you know what, let's just do it full time. Um, and that did not work out at all.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

Uh two months in, I was like, yeah, just I can't.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

It's a lot of work. I'm lucky. I have Ben. I'm spoiled, my producer. He does all the hard work for me. Yeah, shout out to Ben. Heavy lifting here. I just have to show up and have a conversation with Ben.

SPEAKER_03 4:19

Oh, you're chilling.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

But some people, I don't know about you, they find that daunting too. I think you mentioned you were an introvert. I don't get that from you lifting your show. Okay. You used sexual. Sometimes I still am.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

Sometimes I still am. It depends on the mood.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

Well, when you're having conversations all the time, I say this. I feel like I have to charge my batteries after, right? Like it's very draining. Do you prepare a lot? Do you like think about topics you're gonna do? Or yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

Yeah, that takes up a lot of the time because I don't like to go in a conversation unprepared, especially if it's like a guest that I've never met before, or like an industry that's different than what we typically do. Like, I don't want to just go in and wing it. So I spend a lot of time sitting there researching, and we could have someone do that for us too, but at the end of the day, I have to have the conversation with them.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

Right.

SPEAKER_02 5:09

So it's like a producer could tell me what to say, but if I don't, if I'm not genuinely interested in it, then I'm just gonna be like, uh floating, yeah, floating, lost in the conversation. So yeah, that's a lot of behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Yeah, and again, if you're not getting paid for that, it's your time. Your time is it is valuable. So then you you dipped into the total wine of it all. And is that where you fell in love with Dow?

SPEAKER_02 5:29

So Total Wine. Actually, we'll we'll backtrack a little bit. That's fine. I like to open a lot of tabs here, Caz.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

I go all the way left. Go for it.

SPEAKER_02 5:40

So my first interaction was with wine. I was I won't throw an age out there for we don't want to get flagged.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

I'm in the industry and I do have a license.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

I was in college, and I I was around some pretty girls. Oh, and I was like, shout out the pretty girls, they know who they are. And I was like, all right, I can't be drinking vodka and tequila all the time with them. Like, this is too much. So I was like, I started getting introduced to wine nice. Obviously, you start terrible, you should sip some Moscato, like you're doing it well and whatever. Yeah, of course. Um, but then I realized like it's such a smoother drink. Uh-huh. You know, I still have my liquor here and there, but it's just smooth. Um, the other guys around me weren't doing it, the the girls were loving it at the time.

SPEAKER_03 6:31

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

Um, and then I started to love it, so I just became a wine guy, to be honest. Uh, started exploring different varieties, cabs, pinot, chardonnays, roses, everything.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 6:45

Um, so I always had a thing for for drinking wine, and then fast forward, I was down bad, and still wants to do it.

SPEAKER_01 6:55

You're doing a lot of lyric references. I got your other Moscato. Now he's down bad, like Taylor. Holy moly. This Swifty over here. I didn't take you for a Swifty.

SPEAKER_02 7:04

Low-key swifty.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

I love it. See?

SPEAKER_02 7:06

Low-key Swifty.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

So funny.

SPEAKER_02 7:09

Um, but yeah, I just I had to like the podcast was generating a little bit of money, but definitely not sustainable. And I had to have some extra money. So one day a total wine uh truck drove to my neighborhood delivering alcohol, and on the back it said hiring, call this number one. So I called it. Nice. And I was hired within two weeks.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Wow, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 7:31

So yeah, I got hired there. Um, it was cool driving around because I'm driving around Fort Lauderdale, chilling on the beach, dropping off liquor to people, everybody's happy. Um, but it definitely wasn't my purpose. Um, so while I was there, while I was in the store, I started just like reading wine labels, and I would just stare at these bottles all through my shift. So I'm like learning everyone. Um, I saw Dow a lot, and then they hit the podcast, or I think they emailed us or something like a year after.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Amazing.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

And I was like, wait, I recognize this. Uh and then they're just really good people, so it just it's worked out since then.

SPEAKER_01 8:12

That's amazing. Like I said, I've only been in a year. I'm not my whole purpose for the podcast, and we'll get into your purpose because I would love to know.

SPEAKER_02 8:19

I want to know yours too.

SPEAKER_01 8:21

Thanks. So with me, someone approached me because I've been in the industry a long time, 20 years now. I'm third generation liquor baby. So great grandfather was a bootlegger. Yeah. Not not identical to Brett's story, but we're in the same, you know, allegiance of us all being in the family business. And I started my company, Cade Cap, like nine years ago because we're brand owners. So these two, I'm gonna gift them to you after the episode. But Cas420 is our rum, it's hemp infused, and then yeah, and then Claude Irish Whiskey.

SPEAKER_02 8:50

Well, you said hemp infused?

SPEAKER_01 8:51

Hemp infused.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

I would be high from it.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

No, you can't. It's illegal to put THC and CBD with alcohol, it's just for mouthfeel.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

Can I see it real quick?

SPEAKER_01 8:59

Yeah, take it, grab it. You like the florals?

SPEAKER_02 9:02

Puerto Ricans. I'm Puerto Rican.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

I know that.

SPEAKER_02 9:05

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:05

We're gonna get into that connection too. Oh yeah, but yeah, so my dad in the 80s, he used to export donkey rum to the US. So that's how he got into the rum business and he became an became an importer. So, like I said, these are our latest innovations. We own those products, but nine years ago I had friends coming to me being like, How'd you get into Total Wine? Because it's very hard. A lot of people would love to know how to get into that chain. I have friends and relationships that are in big distributors like Empire, and they can't get into Total Wine.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

Are you saying like getting your product in? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 9:36

So that's what my company does. I manage chain relationships and I get brands into all the chains. So Publix, Whole Foods, Walmart, all that.

SPEAKER_03 9:44

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

So people came to me and were like, oh, well, we want to do an ensemble podcast with like all the kids in the liquor business. And I was like, that's cool, but at the end of the day, A, I have a very strong accent. So I was like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

I'm here in the New Yorker to be honest.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

I know. So I was like, I don't know if that's gonna translate well or be well, like people like it. And like I was explaining to you before, I I like to talk to people, I like to see people, I like to feel energy. I'll do Zooms here and there, but it's kind of hard, you know? And they want me to zoom every week. And I was just like, I don't even know if I'm gonna let that. Yeah, for the different. I know, I know. So here I am. I started a year ago, and I've been in just asking friends to come on because like I said, I'm 20 years in this business. So I've had distributors on, I've had brand owners on, I've had people I've never met before on. And then I did a couple touring things. Ben and I went to South Beach Hood and Wine, they asked me to do media, so we got to interview some cool people there.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

The recent one?

SPEAKER_01 10:40

Yeah, yeah, it was fun. And then just last week I was in LA for the beverage forum. That's you were in LA too. I think we just missed each other. Yeah, we missed each other really.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

I think I was leaving as you were coming.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

I know, it's so funny. But you were in like San Diego or something, you said.

SPEAKER_02 10:52

Well, I was in LA first. Okay, and then San Diego after.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

All right.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

Yeah, it was like a whole Cali trip.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

It was Yeah, it's fun.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

I have to go back next week.

SPEAKER_01 11:00

You do? It's nonstop, but oh my gosh, but that's great. Yeah, so that was my purpose, which is basically there's not a lot of females in the industry. Most of them are in wine, most of them aren't in spirits, and most of them didn't grow up in the industry, and most of them don't do what I do. I'm in a very small niche. So I wanted to be a voice for that, and the podcast has just expanded into other things. I love being an entrepreneur. I have several in you know, businesses now. If you count the podcasts, it's three that I have myself, right?

SPEAKER_02 11:26

Well, don't know it's a business.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

Yeah, and it's a brand. You're branding yourself. And so I want to talk about it. I want to inspire people, and I know you're about the same type of messaging.

SPEAKER_02 11:34

Absolutely. So for you, was it a transition like is something you wanted to, or someone just kind of pitched it to you and you fell in love with it?

SPEAKER_01 11:43

Yeah, exactly. Like I didn't know I wanted to do it, you know. I just fell in love with it. I always talk to people, like I've been asked to do panels and stuff and talk because, like I said, there's not a lot of chicks in this side of the business, and they'd want to talk to me, or because of who my father was, maybe they'd like asked me to jump on their podcast or do an interview and never really thought about it. Um, I, you know, I did public speaking and all that in college, and I liked it.

SPEAKER_02 12:05

Like, like how far did you take that?

SPEAKER_01 12:07

Not far. Not far away.

SPEAKER_02 12:09

Because there's like public speaking classes and then like really public speaking.

SPEAKER_01 12:12

No, I didn't get like hired for engagements, but I used to write a blog. Like I was very much into like talking, and I like to give messages and stories. Anytime anything happened to me, I felt like compelled to share it. I'm a big poster. I'll post everything. I'm a poster, I'll post everything. I before like selfies and blogging was a thing, I would do that. I would just like remember when cribs was big?

SPEAKER_02 12:34

Like MTV Cribs? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

I used to do that. Like I'd go to friends' houses and I'd be like, hey, it's showy. I'm I'm here at so-and-so's house.

SPEAKER_02 12:41

And I wow, so you're you're you're built for this.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

I think I was a celebrity in a past life. I always say that. I used to bend. I must have been like Maryland or someone because I'm too comfortable. I'm really too comfortable in this life. Like at the last week at the beverage forum, I was walking up to some big wigs and I was just like, hey, you know, want to jump on, sipping and selling. Like Robin Thick.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

I think I did see that actually. You posted that. Of course you did. You posted everything.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

I post everything. Yeah, so I just I don't know. I'm just too comfortable, but I think that's the benefit. And I think that's also why my clients trust me, my buyers trust me, and I have celebrity clients that trust me, so that's cool.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

Have you had any on here?

SPEAKER_01 13:18

Not yet. Not yet.

SPEAKER_02 13:19

It's going to happen.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

It's going to. You're going to put it in the universe for me. Thank you, Kaz. The podcast gods have spoken.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

Is it different like having a podcaster on versus someone in the internet?

SPEAKER_01 13:31

Yeah, because you know how to ask questions too. The banter's there. It's easy. I feel like, like I said, people are staring at me like, oh my God, what's she going to say? Especially because I don't do pre-questions. You know, I'll say, is there anything you don't want me to say? Obviously, we edit it, but definitely having you on the conversation's flowing. I also, like I said, I want to learn from you. And usually I'm trying to give my audience a message and teach them and give some insight to my world, but also not bore them. I feel like the best episodes are when I'm getting a little bit outside of my comfort zone, you know, which I'm doing with you.

SPEAKER_02 14:02

I agree. Yeah, honestly, I feel the same. Luckily, it hasn't happened like too much, but you have those where they're just looking at you like, what's the next question?

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:11

And I'm like, uh.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

Or the answers are short. The answers are short.

SPEAKER_02 14:15

It's very, it feels transactional. Yes. It's like, why did you even come?

SPEAKER_01 14:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:19

Um, everybody has an agenda.

SPEAKER_01 14:20

Yeah.

unknown 14:21

Whatever.

SPEAKER_02 14:22

But no, I mean, I'm the same way. I just like having good conversation.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

Um, so is that why you started? It was a hobby.

SPEAKER_02 14:29

This started completely randomly, to be honest. Um like I said, it was during COVID. We didn't know what to do. We were passing time. Um, it was me and my boy and my brother, and we started doing a live stream on Instagram, but no purpose to it. It was literally just we're stuck in the house. We were drinking wine.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Of course we were.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

But this at the time it was bad. There was a liquor store by me, and they were selling two dollar bottles of wine.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Oh, wow. Yeah, that's rough.

SPEAKER_02 15:00

Yeah, yeah, it was, but you know, we're like broke college kids, and we bought like we didn't know how long we're gonna be locked down. They're like, the world's gonna be shut down. So we bought like 50 bottles of wine.

SPEAKER_03 15:10

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

Um, so it turned into like a we weren't drinking it every day, but it turned into like a daily live stream. And mind you, we had no following at the time. The podcast wasn't even a thing, we're just off our personal pages.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

That's that was gonna be my question. Like these day and age, this day and age, kids in college have like 60,000 followers to start. It's crazy. It's wild. So I was curious if he had a good following.

SPEAKER_02 15:36

Yeah, no, it was we did it for my personal page because I had the biggest following at the time, but I think it was like 1,500 people.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:44

Which you know, that these were just my college friends. There wasn't like a following for real. Yeah, um, and then the live stream started getting pushed out to people in different states. So people were in like Texas, North Carolina, New York are cop in on. I'm like, who are these people?

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Yeah, you're like, how'd they find me?

SPEAKER_02 16:01

Yeah, and they start looking forward to the show. Um and people like just really wanted to see the live stream, so it kept going. The world slowly started to like come back to normal, and I was like, I I kind of want to like figure out a way to continue this, like, because it was it was a crazy show. It was fun. Um, this is before Instagram had a lot of restrictions, right?

SPEAKER_01 16:23

It was just uh so you guys would just go viral all the time doing fun shit.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

Yeah, well, it wasn't even viral, it was a little com because it was inside the live session.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

But in the lives, don't they go on the story, or they didn't do that back then?

SPEAKER_02 16:34

Um, I don't even think they did it at the time. Yeah, this was 2020.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

Yeah, like some of your update didn't happen yet.

SPEAKER_02 16:41

Yeah, so this is literally we would have like maybe a hundred people on the live, but it was just that community that knew about it. And these lives will go on for like six hours. So I knew like, okay, this is something clearly engaging people, they want to see this, so um world coming back, people start going back to work and whatnot, and got a stimulus check and bought some equipment.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

Love it.

SPEAKER_02 17:10

I was just like, let's just let's just try it for real.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

Yeah, and you have a good radio voice, don't you feel?

SPEAKER_02 17:16

You think so?

SPEAKER_01 17:16

I do. I think you have a good soothing voice. Oh, yeah. When you came in and I and I put the headphones on, I just heard you talk and I was like, I know this voice. Yeah, I think that's important. I think that's part of it.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

Because I always hated my voice, to be honest. Did up, but I guess I'm used to talking to the mic at this point.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

Yeah, no, you have a good flow.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

I feel like I'm in a radio station right now, to be honest. You definitely got the setup.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

We try. I listen, you gotta fake it to make it. When how many years in did you feel like, well, first of all, getting someone to reach out to you that early in a year to ask? Like, I'm sponsoring my podcast because I obviously have ownership of brands, and I don't know that I what like when you started, you kind of knew. You were like, I want to do this. You tried, like you said, and then you were like, it's not making me money. Most people that come into the studio do want to make a business out of it. I'm a mom and a wife, and I've been in this industry, like I said, 20 plus years, and I've expanded my conversations to beverage and entrepreneurs. And so obviously, I would love to make it into something in the future where maybe I'm not gonna be selling my brands or other people's brands because there's gonna be a hot new shiny toy who's gonna let you know.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

This is true.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

So you gotta think for the future.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

I mean, my biggest thing was I wasn't even I didn't come in like, oh, I want to make this a business or I want to go viral, or I just wanted to continue reaching a lot of people and be consistent. That was like my main goal going in. Um, so literally from the jump, again, it's still like a little bit of COVID time, so I had more flexibility, but first month into it recorded like 10 episodes. Yeah, um, because I knew and they weren't good, to be honest. Like that's how it is when you start. Uh, but the biggest goal was like maybe it's like a competitive nature in me. I was like, I don't want to start this, put it out to the world, and then a month later we fall off. That's okay, we fall off, whatever. Um, so I was like, I'm gonna make sure this is consistent. People see this every day. And of course, at first they're like, okay, cool, we started a little podcast. Okay, right. And then next thing you know, we're 10 episodes in, 25 episodes in, 50 episodes in. Um, and now I'm known for being a podcaster.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Yeah, people share your videos to me all the time.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

Really?

SPEAKER_01 19:33

Yeah. Is that how you found this? No, I originally, like I said, I was researching for different guests and I found the sovereign brands because he's local and I was like thinking of who I do all this myself. I find the guests.

SPEAKER_02 19:45

I respect it.

SPEAKER_01 19:47

And like I said, I don't really premeditate my questions. Like I do the best, and I'm sure I repeat some of the things because some things to me are um redundant, but they need to be heard because the audience isn't the same, right? Right. You and I will share an audience on this episode, but everybody else usually has never been on a podcast or they've been on a podcast and it's the same questions and the same script. And I want to get the I want the laugh. I like to make people laugh, and I think it's not supposed to be so serious, right? And my mom was a jokester and I have that in me. Ben is funny, and like we just like to talk about music, which I love that about you. That, but that video, the one that has been sent to me multiple times, is because I grew up in Puerto Rico. I love reggae tone. I'm a huge Latino look-alike.

SPEAKER_02 20:30

You know which video you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

Yes, you do know which video I'm talking about. And everybody sends it to me because it's like the most famous Zumba song ever, and everybody loves it. And you guys took a Zumba class. Was that before or after that video?

SPEAKER_02 20:41

Oh, we that was that was before that. That was the the Zumba was last summer.

SPEAKER_00 20:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:46

Um, so another addition to my job history. I used to teach Zumba.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

Haha, no shit, really?

SPEAKER_01 20:52

I loved it.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

Completely on accident.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

Did you love it?

SPEAKER_02 20:54

Oh, I loved it.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Oh, making the playlist. I missed my ladies. Yeah, so fun.

SPEAKER_02 20:59

That oh, that was so I was a personal trainer. Um and they just randomly asked me to teach like a hit class, like a workout class.

SPEAKER_03 21:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:08

Um, so I I I was teaching like workout class, but I just threw on my playlist. I I've never taught a class, I didn't know what's I just threw on a playlist.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

Um they love the regaton, the the the all the you know, old classics, the the new ones, like pit bulk, all of it.

SPEAKER_02 21:27

They like we were working out, but we were also like jamming.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

Um, so at the end of the class we started dancing, and then the next week they're like, What if we just dance? And then it turned into Zumba for six months.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

I love it. And but that's if you had rhythm, could you dance? Oh, for sure. Okay, good. All right, guys. I had to ask the question, Kaz. You never know. You know, some people don't.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

Listen, I'm stuck right now. You're like, but I'm shaking my head.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

I saw you on the video. Look at Ben. Ben shaking it too. Ben, Ben, Ben is a Latino over there. Look at him. Are you actually salsa? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 22:02

Colombia.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

Colombiano.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

Like Sofia Vergara.

SPEAKER_02 22:06

Oh, that's my that's my queen.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

That's his love. I took Ben to Salfie True Wine and got him very close to her.

SPEAKER_02 22:13

Oh, he he was very happy.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

He was feeling good.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

He was feeling good. I got some good, I had this extension.

SPEAKER_01 22:19

Yeah, he had the big selfie stick. He was like looking at her.

unknown 22:22

I'm like, there's a reason.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:24

Honestly, if I saw her and I heard the accent, I'd probably be like, You'd die.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

Stop dead in your tracks.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 22:30

I know I love her. Should get her own. She doesn't age. One day, you and I together.

SPEAKER_02 22:34

Oh, I'm coming. Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

I'll invite you if I get her ass on here. I I will ask Ben. He knows. I keep a promise.

SPEAKER_02 22:41

Ben's coming on too.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Ben will be here. Ben's gonna be like bringing food. He'll be like, I'll make you some dinner. So good. Okay, so like I said, you've been doing this a long time. You guys have a different setup. You are on an ensemble cast, but I've heard you reference multiple times when you're solo dolo that a lot of people like you alone. And a lot of the podcasts I've been on, majority of them are an ensemble cast. It's not like it's not, yeah, you know, including in the beverage industry. That's the other reason I want to do it. I'm the only one doing it myself.

SPEAKER_02 23:19

I prefer it that way.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:21

Um, it's tough by yourself.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

It's hard by yourself, but it's also hard with co-hosts, right? Because it's like you're competing almost. Um, or is that the wrong word?

SPEAKER_02 23:31

Well, it depends on the co-hosts. I think maybe with guests sometimes. Um honestly, just I guess it works out, but the structure we have, I kind of do a lot of the preparation. Okay. So they ask questions, which is perfect, but they're not like they don't have their own script or whatever to where we have to compete. Um I'm trying to think of a moment like I feel like I was competing. Usually just people who love to hear themselves talk. I know, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:02

It's like it's crazy. When you see it happening, Ben knows I have a uh code for whatever I feel like it's happening, and I just say something. Obviously, my listeners and viewers don't know, but um, it's hard because we only usually film for an hour. I don't know about you.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

About the same.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

Yeah. So it's like you A, don't want it to be a drag. B, you don't want them to get stuck on too many topics. You usually have like your agenda. I'm sure with me, I don't usually have an agenda. It's more like I know I want to get something valuable out of it. I want them to feel like I'm scratching their back as they're scratching mine. I don't want it to be transactional like you're saying, but I want it to not be like a waste of everybody's time, right? And sometimes it'll either be where they're long-winded on an answer that doesn't nobody cares about. It's like, oh, well that's where editing comes from. Yeah, exactly, right? But then then you have to piece it back together too, because usually my question, sometimes they'll take out their own tabs. That has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

SPEAKER_02 24:59

Yeah, it's like that's why it's important to have the right guest on.

SPEAKER_01 25:04

Right.

SPEAKER_02 25:04

Um, oh, especially starting out, there was a lot of before we were. I I tell people it's not an interview, it's a conversation because when they think it's an interview, they sit there and just wait for the next question. Yeah. And before we were having like different backgrounds on, we were just having friends that we know. Um, you know, sometimes we talk about dating and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Yeah, you guys go into a lot of pop culture.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

We do a lot of pop culture, a lot of just relatable. Um, and we have a big audience of women, so people have these different dating experiences, whatnot. So there would be a lot of women on who who want to come on and just kind of like spill all their ex stories and what and it just I'm like, oh, this is it's hard. It this is coming a yap session, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

Yeah, for sure. And I'm sure they're thinking, like, like you said, a lot of people like to hear themselves talk, and uh I'm sure they're trying to produce while they're there. Like, I feel like sometimes people are on the the pod with me and they're like either trying so hard to get a point across or make me laugh or something to make it viral. Like, do you feel like sometimes that's the goal for people is like to make that viral content with you and be like, yeah, I helped you.

SPEAKER_02 26:15

You know, I I you know the worst. I have literally sat down with people where before we even turn the cameras on, they're like, Oh, we're going viral today.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

I'm like, Oh yeah, you're like, here we go.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

Like, because Ben knows, man. Yeah, it's the worst because like that's not our goal. We just want to sit down, have good conversations. Um, luckily, we've learned to like clip it up better to where you know it has the highest chance of I don't look at it as going viral, just getting the most views. If people like it, cool. If not, we move on to the next thing. Um, but literally people will come on and they try to say stuff on purpose to go viral, and then it makes it not go viral because it it feels inawkable.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

People feel that, yeah, for sure. You know, it's it you you've talked about this before because I listened to a lot of your shows before you came on. You talk about that where like you have to be authentic, and if you're trying too hard, it doesn't come across. And I think even that episode with Brett, he was talking about it. Like, if you don't have the passion, right?

SPEAKER_02 27:13

He's a very passionate man.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

Yeah, he is. I'm the same. I feel that way about my business, and whenever I talk about what I do, I love what I do, and I have a sense of pride. I feel like that is the best guest whenever you're talking to them and they have something that they're excited to talk about, and you just like highlight them and you guys ping pong back off each other. Those are the best. Do you pre-interview before you ask your guests to come on?

SPEAKER_02 27:35

Uh, how so?

SPEAKER_01 27:36

Like, like I'll I'll like in I'll invite a guest on and then I'll say, Hey, we need to jump on a call for like 10 minutes, and I feel them out.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

Uh sometimes I have before it kind of just depends. Um, like maybe with bigger name people, a lot of times, like sometimes their manager reaches out. So we might have a quick thing. They mostly just want to see like we prepare some topics, um, especially when people gotta like watch out for PR and whatnot. But we'll prepare some topics, the manager reviews it. If they like it, cool. If not, we make some changes. Um, I prepare like an outline for myself, and I could have it right here, but once we get into the conversation, I don't even really look at it. Yeah, I'm like, I'm just in the moment.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Yeah, of course. See, I do it differently. Obviously, the only ones that I've ever had a lot of problems with are like the very corporate, you know? Like I'll send, I'll send the raw footage, and they're like, you gotta cut this, you gotta cut that. You did you can just say that this shouldn't be announced yet, da da da. So that's always hard. That's why I'm asking you because I'm obviously trying to learn from you and pick your brain a little bit about what I'm doing differently. But you're you're you have people reaching out to you to be guests, which I haven't got to that level yet. I would love that. I do have some.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

Trust me, I do a lot of outreach too.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

Yeah, but I do have some, but they don't want to pay to be on the show. They want me to just like talk about their product, which I'd love to highlight, but sometimes it's like a person in Canada, right? And my audience is all like you've talked about on your show, you have audiences outside of the US. I haven't really looked at much of my analytics, to be honest with you, so I don't know where they're coming from.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

You gotta know.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

I just hear, I know, I gotta know who I'm talking to. Like I said, I'm learning here as I go, but I know that a lot of my listeners are the distributors, are the buyers for the chains, you know, because they'll write me an email and be like, hey, I saw your episode, which with X brands, you know, send me a sample. So if someone reaches out from Canada where they're not distributed in the US yet, it doesn't make sense for me to put them on my platform yet, you know?

SPEAKER_02 29:36

Yeah, you definitely have to be picky. Um grateful to have a good, I want to say it's like a lot, a lot of people reach out, but um here and there we get some some people. Um, and I'm sure they're really good people. Like, honestly, I feel bad sometimes because like I do want to have conversations with more people, but it has to be a match for our brand as well. Um, especially because we've gotten to a certain following, so I want to make sure the audience enjoys it as well. Like, yeah, I'm sure we could you know catch a vibe, have a good time off camera, but a lot of times people want to promote their product or whatever they have going on, which you know I I love to talk about, but the audience might not care. So if I keep doing that, then the audience would be like, you know, this is not really on brand and not on brand for you.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

Right. So you may lose the follower. Do you in your analytics do you see like where they trail off, like on your episodes?

SPEAKER_02 30:32

Um on YouTube, you can see I'm not gonna lie, I still work on YouTube is pain working on that. But um uh on the audio, I'm not sure if we could see that.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

Like on YouTube when I started and Ben would show me, like in the beginning, it would they would trail off within three minutes. And that's usually like my intro, and then my first question. So I was like, okay, usually in the in the beginning, my first question was always like, How did you get into this business? Or what's your brand about? And like, so I shifted and I stopped doing that, and I just start talking, and like you said, or catch a vibe.

SPEAKER_02 31:08

You know, even with the editing, you know, you could throw in the best minute, 30 seconds, whatever it is. Uh, because people have a very, very short attention.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

Yeah, of course, nowadays.

SPEAKER_02 31:18

Yeah, and I'm still working on that too because I want to have a good conversation with the person, but I know like that first that first piece of material that they see is so important and the thumbnail. Yeah. Um, so like I said, I'm still working on it myself, but uh, it's like there's so much, it's so saturated now. So you have to really like wow them, yeah, stand out. Um, even with like the retention. I could see that on the the clips too, the IG reels and whatnot. Um, but you know, a lot of it sometimes comes from the strength of a following, which why I want to be consistent, because it's very hard to just pop out and go viral unless you're doing something outlandish.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

Yeah, of course. But majority of your audience is female, mine's opposite, obviously. Like it's usually the male-dominant industry. I'm a I'm a unicorn in the industry, and people know my dad, so they're like interested to see what I'm gonna do. And he's very crass, and I have a truck driver mouth, but you know, it's at the end of the day, people do like that and they do want to see that, but they also love the I have a humble quality to myself. I shouldn't, I guess, because if they see my dad, he is not. But um, I feel like I think a majority of my audience originally were the buyers and the friends and all that, and those people are important and you want them to support you, but it's funny because I find that the strangers are the ones reposting my stuff.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

Shout out to the right.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

I know I love my audience who I don't know, and I know that's important to you too, because you guys want to go and meet your your crew and and your listeners, and for me, my viewers, I find that on the YouTube, because Ben handles it, YouTube is a lot more. Um, I get more downloads and it's stronger. We have a beautiful studio. I guess I have a nice looking face. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

A lot of men too.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

So there's that. But it's it's a lot of work. I think about everything. Like even today, right? I I forgot my cups, so I had to have a podcast junkies cup. You know, like you think about everything for the yeah, for the look and the vibe, and you want to make sure that it's right and people are gonna reach out about something. Last week I posted an episode. This was upside down.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

It happens, you know what I'm saying? I'm telling you, I've had so many moments because I've and now, especially because I see it, like I review all the footage before it goes out, and I'm like, that was messed up. There's one time I just got back, I think from LA, and I left my suitcase in the background. So there was a suitcase in the episode. Very tacky, but I was like, whatever, like we we already recorded it.

SPEAKER_03 33:58

Right.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

Um, it's tough, it's tough. It's people think you just sit here and talk in a mic, and magic a lot of people don't respect it. No, um, and it is, especially now because it is very saturated, everyone starts a podcast these days.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

I know, but you want to know, I heard a uh uh a stat from someone I was on their podcast, and he told me that only one percent of people film over 25 episodes.

SPEAKER_02 34:30

Okay, like total. Total. Really?

SPEAKER_01 34:33

And if you go like farther than that, obviously, like you're in that one percent. He said that most people give up after episode three.

SPEAKER_02 34:41

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Wild, right?

SPEAKER_02 34:43

Show us how hard it is.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

It's very hard, yeah. And like you're doing it all by yourself.

SPEAKER_02 34:47

What what episode is this for you?

SPEAKER_01 34:49

60. I just haven't posted them all in a year, yeah. I mean, the second year I went hard. Ben and I have been in here. I'll film back to back because I hate doing my hair and makeup. So I'll just bring a different shirt. I'll do a different shirt.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

I just walked up in here.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

Yeah, you just walked up in here like everything's fine. I had to get up at like seven, blow dry my hair. Yeah, so I I hate that, I guess, because I'm a mom. When I was younger, I used to love, I'd get up very early, do all the girly things. Now I just don't give a shit. I'm always in like gym clothes and like a ponytail. So I will film sometimes two or three episodes while I'm here.

SPEAKER_02 35:20

As you should. Yeah. It's actually better that way because I mean, you're warmed up. You're warmed up, and same for like, you know, we still want to look presentable too. So it's hard when you have a whole new guest on a whole new day, and we gotta reset up the cameras, focus the mic. Every guest is different, so you gotta get them adjusted and like you know, I I'm used to doing it, so it's fine, but for the average person, like it might have it might be the first time they ever spoke on a mic. Yeah, so you gotta like give them the rundown and make them feel comfortable, and it's just like repeating the process over and over. And I'm grateful for it, but sometimes recording it turns into like it could turn into like a four-hour session between setting up, recording, because every now and then we have like an hour and a half type of thing. So let's say 30 minutes getting adjusted, hour and a half, recording, it's two hours there, and then afterwards they're like, oh my god, there's so so you get stuck yapping.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

I know, right? But that's good. I love that. I I love making new friends with the guests that I have. When I was at the beverage forum last week, three people that were there were guests on my podcast via Zoom, and I hadn't met them yet. Oh that was fun to like get to meet them in person and vibe with them and hang out, and they were so excited.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

What's your like what's the ratio you had between like live and zoom?

SPEAKER_01 36:42

I've only done two live events. I just did the beverage forum and then I did the South Beach Food and Wine, but usually, oh, you mean in person here? Sorry. Oh, yes, yes. I'm sorry. I'd say that they're 50-50, honestly. Um, I personally try not to do as many Zooms anymore because, like I said, I've been having some issues where I feel like it's not as maybe their internet sucks, and then I don't know it till like we're here filming, and it's like very fuzzy or their mouth doesn't match up.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

They're on Zoom. Are they like here?

SPEAKER_01 37:14

Yeah, they're there, and I'm looking at them on the camera there, and they see me like this, but in your seat.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

Wow, that's yeah. I've actually never done it. So oh really?

SPEAKER_01 37:22

Never done a zoom?

SPEAKER_02 37:23

I tried it, I started to one time, and I was like, I don't like this. And we've we've had people too that are out of state, even out of country, and they could be like really good people, but I'm like, it's not gonna be the same.

SPEAKER_01 37:35

It's not the same. And honestly, like you could see it in the stats, right? Like, and that's what's cool, and that's why like sometimes I'll push people into like another season. Like I've taped a lot season two because I was trying to bank a bunch of episodes and and have them timed out, which I didn't do last year. Last year I only did maybe eight episodes the whole year, the whole year. I started like I think March and I ended in maybe July, I think, and then I came back in the fall, not to get dark, but I I had a death in the family, so I stopped for a minute and then I came back hard because I threw myself into work and it was my mom who passed, and she loved she loved the media world. She used to work for Ladies' Home Journal, so like I kind of feel like this is an homage to her when I do it. But I needed a break, you know.

SPEAKER_02 38:21

No, it's hard. So I'm sorry to hear that, first of all. But thank you. Um, it's hard when you have to like put yourself out here like that, and then something like that happens behind the scenes because it's like, do I want to tell everybody? Do people even care? And like, you know, the real ones are gonna care, but like it's just people don't know what's going on behind the scenes, something like that, something will work, something whatever it may be. Yeah, and you just have to like come here and just show up. I know.

SPEAKER_01 38:49

Do you feel like you share when you have stuff like that going on, or do you feel like you'll share and then you'll edit it, maybe?

SPEAKER_02 38:55

Um, I shared. I think this was 2021. This was like episode 20 or something. Uh my uncle passed, and I had to go to his funeral the same day and record in the same day, um, and it just didn't feel right. I I I guess I expressed it by talking about it on there. Um which I knew like it's not gonna stop me from recording, especially again, this is episode 20, so I'm preaching being consistent. I like I can't just stop. Um but I think that was my first like you know, just kind of like keep pushing through it.

SPEAKER_03 39:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:34

Because like I can't just you know it hurt, but I can't just stop. And you know, we we I think it's important to take breaks here and there, like you take a month off or whatever it may be, but I was like, I can't let something like that stop. Um, especially the same way. He was very he was the animated uncle. So you know, this he would love this right now. So I'm like, you know, let me just keep going, keep pushing through it.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

Yeah, it's a sweet, like I said, nod to them, and it's something you know they'd want you to do. Like they don't want you to just be wallowing in the sadness. But like for me personally, I took the break and I like looked inward and stuff, and I just tried to decide what I wanted to do with the show and then try to adjust accordingly. I made an intro, like a banner, made myself more official. Yeah. So with Ben singing on it, yeah. Ben is good. He's the man, switched up my producer and all that. And yeah, I just started back then. I used to only post bi-weekly, and like I said, I stopped. And then now I'm doing weekly, and I have episodes banked, and I'm doing it on purpose because I'm trying to post them where it makes sense. Like yesterday I was single to Mayo, so I posted my tequila guests, like things like that. Okay. The week before, one of the guests was speaking at the beverage forum. So I wanted to release her episode because she was gonna be all over the internet and they are at the show with me, so it was a good time to drop. It made sense, you know. So I'm trying to do that.

SPEAKER_02 40:54

How far ahead are you now?

SPEAKER_01 40:55

I have episodes through November. I know, but it doesn't make sense all the time, though, right? Like, so sometimes some of the episodes from the past now I'm like pushing them because they're not as good as the other ones, you know what I'm saying? So then they don't make sense. Like I was talking to Ben about that with this one guest. I was like, we taped them so far ago, long ago, and the reason I didn't post them was because they had a Christmas tree in the back, and I knew even then, like I didn't want to post it yet. And now it's like if I post in the summer, it looks silly.

SPEAKER_02 41:24

Well, now you gotta wait until Christmas.

SPEAKER_01 41:25

I know. That's what I'm saying, and probably the whole conversation for me because I'm talking about their brand and where they're at, probably doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

I mean, that's how it is. This it's better to be ahead like that, honestly. That's that's part of the reason I was in LA. Um I was just I don't know why. It's sometimes kind of hard to find people here. That's why when you reached out, I was like, oh, this is perfect. Uh I used to live in Boca. Nice. We have similar brands. Um and a lot of people think like I don't know, it's kind of weird. They see the following and they get intimidated, and they're like, they think it's I'm like, I don't I don't look at that. I'm just like, if it's a good match, it's a good match. Yeah, you know, I'm not necessarily chasing the clout or whatever it is. Um but yeah, there's been people on the opposite end who they might have a huge following, but they're a terrible guest.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

Terrible guests or won't collab.

SPEAKER_02 42:18

Won't collab.

SPEAKER_01 42:18

Won't share. And it's like, what why did you come on the show? I remember look, Ben's looking, he knows because he knows who I'm talking about. It was his fault.

SPEAKER_02 42:28

Early on, I had a guest on with over a million followers, so you were excited. A year in that's like, oh, we struck gold, like this is gonna be great, and we made some really good clips, really good content, and he didn't collab on it. And it's just like it never got pushed out to the audience, and it was it was really good stuff. I was like, You're preaching to the choir. Yeah, this is my first interaction with yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:52

So I now I have a few things I learned protocol wise, but it still doesn't really matter. But I sent an email always, I sent it to you. It says, like, you have to say, Yes, I agree, that you'll repost for at least two weeks. Like you have two weeks to figure this out, you know what I mean? But like, still, it's not like a binding contract. I don't have like my attorney on it, but like at the end of the day, that's all you can do. And with you, it sounds like you have people helping you with production costs, but I'm absorbing all the costs, right? With my company. Not all. No. All right. All right, but you're filming where?

SPEAKER_02 43:24

I film at my place, right?

SPEAKER_01 43:26

Yeah, so that saves the cost.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

That does save the cost. Um, it's like it's tough because I really aspire to have something like this, but I know, especially with guests, even myself, I was late today. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 43:39

It's okay. We still love you, Kaz.

SPEAKER_02 43:41

I've had I've had people come an hour and a half late. Super late. Um that's terrible.

SPEAKER_00 43:47

Look at that. He's like, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:49

Yeah. And I know, like, if I had something like this and I was paying studio time and they do that, oh, it would make me so mad. It'd make me that's why, like, again, I apologize because I'm usually so. On top of that.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

Don't worry about it. I I was easy on you, asked Ben. I mean, such a brat. I'm such a brat, but I loved you and I was so excited for you to be here. And it happens, it happens all the time. And he knows I'm always early. And he always cushions a little after because he likes to hang out with me after. He's gonna say something, this yo-yo.

SPEAKER_04 44:16

Well, I was going to also say, we don't get the text message that you sent, though. That was something I was like, oh, he's he's a good guy. Like he understood the time. He's like, I understand the time, I understand the present, all of that. And I was like, all right, Joey, I like this guy. I was like, this is a guy. This is he understands what a studio is, he understands all that. This is a good guy. I'm excited for him to come in.

SPEAKER_02 44:39

Thank you, thank you. No, trust me. That is my biggest pet peeve. Um, and we've we've had horror stories, we've had people cancel an hour before.

SPEAKER_01 44:47

Same. I've had I've been in the studio. Ben has been with me, he's seen 50 emails of me confirming because I just had a feeling, like I had a feeling about it. Like either they forgot to send the samples, or they were like, Oh, maybe, or whatever. And there's 52 emails, and the last 10 are saying, Okay, Wednesday at 10, okay, Wednesday at 10. And then literally I'll get a text message like, Oh, I didn't get on my flight, and now I'm on this flight, I'm on the plane, I can't, or the power went out, and I'm like, Are you kidding? So it's hard, but like thankfully, Ben's cool and he has his own show, so we'll just like do an episode together or something. Yeah, been there, done that.

SPEAKER_02 45:25

Oh you like the name? I love that name.

SPEAKER_01 45:28

It's a cool show.

SPEAKER_02 45:29

And the sipping is selling too, yeah. Man, you know what got me? Also, the colors. I was like, oh yeah, this is come on, I'm where I need to be.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

We're similar, we're similar our colors. Well, I know, like I said, I love your show. I want to make sure everybody's following you. If they're not, you can shout out any Instagram you want, because I don't know if you want to say you're personal or not.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

Sure. Um, well, the personal is Caz underscore zero. Uh, my full name is Caso.

SPEAKER_01 45:54

Oh, what does that mean? Um, so in Italian, it means I know what it means in Italian Well to Z. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 46:03

If you're if you're even if you just search up C-A-Z-Z. Yes, I'll let you do the Google search on that. Um, but it was my grandfather's name. I I heard he was named by an Italian woman.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

Oh, well, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

Um he was military and it got passed down to me.

SPEAKER_01 46:17

So I love it.

SPEAKER_02 46:18

I'm the only one I know, but you're the only Kaz I know.

SPEAKER_01 46:21

That's cool.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

And then Can I Boba Chaw podcast? Uh, pretty straightforward. I think we're the only can I vibe y'all I've heard of as well.

SPEAKER_01 46:31

You are.

SPEAKER_02 46:32

Um, so yeah, all platforms. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:35

I wanted to ask you how you pick your songs because this is something I was excited about. Like I said, I love music. I'm a honorary Latina. I love everything. I'm not. I just grew up with the battery. Oh, honorary. Honorary, yes. You're a real Puerto Rican. I know I identified. I was there this past weekend for my birthday. Puerto Rico? I was in Puerto Rico. I went to go see Maroon Five. They're my favorite bands. I've been following them around since college. They weren't named Maroon 5 back in the day. They were called Karas Flowers, and I've been to over 30 shows and I have a tattoo of their lyrics. I'm a real crazy fan, die hard. But my fandom goes beyond that. Like I'm a big time fan of rap music. I love RB. I'm going to see Chris Brown and Usher. I've seen Usher twice. I've seen Chris. I love everybody. I'm a country girl. So I've watched your show. Can I vibe with y'all? I've seen you guys do these clips that I find hilarious. Like I said, the who sings that one song? Is it? Um it's called Danza Coturo, but I don't know who the guy is.

SPEAKER_02 47:40

Don Omar.

SPEAKER_01 47:41

That's right. He's a Puerto Rican.

SPEAKER_02 47:43

Mm-mm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Mm-hmm. Anywho, so I'm curious how you pick your songs, and I'm curious if you ever forget if you've already done one of the songs.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

Uh, to answer the second question, we never forget. Okay. Well, I never forget.

SPEAKER_01 47:55

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_02 47:56

Uh, because I spend hours and hours and hours and hours listening to the same song over and over before it goes out. So I can never forget what was posted.

SPEAKER_01 48:04

So you don't know the lyrics ahead of time for all of them.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

Oh, I know all of them.

SPEAKER_01 48:08

But are these songs that you already knew the lyrics for, or are you learning them for this segment?

SPEAKER_02 48:12

No, we never. So we I get me and my brother, uh, my two boys, Trey and Geordie, because they're musically talented. Uh, we have never learned lyrics for a song. It's just basically what we do is we connect the phone to the thing, the mixer. Um, we pass the phone around. We have a list of like songs that people would know or maybe like might not know, but it's it's still a good song to jam out. We're not gonna have like a random song that no one's ever heard of because we're like, what is this?

SPEAKER_03 48:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

Um basically we just pass the phone around and you pick, and sometimes we do like a random, like you pick a song on the spot and we just jam out. So say I pass the phone to you, I'm not gonna know what you put on. So it's an authentic reaction. Uh, we don't prepare, like, okay, learn the lyrics for this today. Um, we're actually recording more tonight. I love it. That's why I said I'll see you.

SPEAKER_01 49:08

So fun. So, how are you gonna play this? I'm gonna put on a song and see if you know the lyrics. One of my favorite songs.

SPEAKER_02 49:14

Are you what is it? What do you want to do here?

SPEAKER_01 49:17

I don't know. I've never done this before. This ain't my show.

SPEAKER_02 49:20

Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 49:21

What am I doing?

SPEAKER_02 49:22

Like I said, we don't we don't ask each other what we want. We just want to do it.

SPEAKER_01 49:26

Ben, am I putting it in the microphone? Or are you putting it in your microphone? You're putting on a song.

SPEAKER_04 49:31

I was gonna say we did it.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

What are we doing?

SPEAKER_02 49:36

That's what we would normally do. Because then we'll we'll hear it in the speakers or the headphones. That's I think that's why I'm probably gonna have to.

SPEAKER_01 49:43

Alright, Ben. So are you picking a song or am I telling you what song?

SPEAKER_02 49:47

Well, that's why we can only post it on Instagram and TikTok.

SPEAKER_04 49:50

That's what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 49:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:52

Don't do it?

SPEAKER_04 49:54

Yeah, because I need to do it.

SPEAKER_02 49:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:57

We could do it and do it for a clip.

unknown 49:58

Yeah, we could do it.

SPEAKER_02 49:59

Yeah, so usually we cut out the music part and don't put that on YouTube.

SPEAKER_01 50:09

Then if this is too complicated for you.

SPEAKER_04 50:11

Can we do a clip?

unknown 50:12

Can we do it after we're gonna do that?

SPEAKER_01 50:13

Yeah, let's do it after. So I'm gonna sign him a little editing purposes only.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

Honestly, um, sometimes that happens when I have people on and they want to do it, and some it's like middle of the conversation. I was like, oh no, save it for that because I'm gonna have to like cut this and come back to the conversation.

SPEAKER_01 50:30

Speak his language, this guy, trying to make his life difficult. I try to have him blur out the entire background of an episode of I had two Zoom guests, and I try I asked him to do it for me. And he was like, Joey, this is so much work, I would only do it for you. I didn't like the background, they had people walking in the back. I know, but this is what I'm talking about. You have to blur out people walking shit. Yes, it's so crazy. Anywho, Kaz, is there anything that you want to talk about that we didn't cover today on Snippet and Stella?

SPEAKER_02 50:59

Um, what are some of your goals for the future with this?

SPEAKER_01 51:02

Like I said, I would love because I'm a mom and I I understand that people age out. There's people in my industry that are still dinosaurs like my dad, who is gonna be 90 and still in the business. Joe. Um, but at the end of the day, I I love what I do. I'm passionate about what I do. I can sell pretty much anything, right?

SPEAKER_02 51:22

Sipping and selling.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

Zip it and selling. But I do, I don't get high on my own supply. I don't drink a lot. So I'm expanding into different beverages.

SPEAKER_02 51:30

Honestly, I'm this people see the song and they think we just drink every episode.

SPEAKER_01 51:35

Well, like you said, you're talking drinking water. Like, I know. Fake it to make it, like I said. My goals here are to have a following. I would love to have authentic followers. I don't want like ghost followers or anything. I want people to actually want to tune in, want to hear what I have to say. I'm not saying it for any other purpose except to inspire. I want people that are um, you know, a lot of people in my world aren't women, like I said. So I want them to feel like they have a voice. I feel like I want them to have someone to look forward to listening to. I love listening to podcasts. Most of the podcasts I listen to are men. I want to have a female voice out there. I don't need to be so big, like you said. I just want the same people to keep coming back. It would be great to get some people listening from Puerto Rico or any other islands or countries. That'd be pretty cool. I think that'd be nice.

SPEAKER_02 52:21

I think we mentioned Canada at the beginning. The Canadians show a lot of love.

SPEAKER_01 52:24

They do? Okay, good love.

SPEAKER_02 52:26

And the Australians.

SPEAKER_01 52:27

Australian. Well, my name is Joey. I'm okay. Joey. So funny. But yeah, that's my goal. What's your goal with your podcast?

SPEAKER_02 52:36

Um, I just want to continue to reach a lot of people, um, just provide a safe space and good community. Yeah. Again, we connect through music, but also it's called Can I Buy with Y'all. So I don't know. Like it's it's obviously we can't speak directly to everybody, but you know, the more people we inspire and just you know have a good time with, yeah. You know, I said in a recent episode, I just want to set up an event and just you know, come by out.

SPEAKER_01 53:04

Yeah, and it's so fun, it's so fun to connect and and be in person. It's such a lost art to be able to have conversations.

SPEAKER_02 53:12

People are starving for that in-person connection. So I want to be able to provide that.

SPEAKER_01 53:17

I love that. That's amazing, Kaz. Well, thanks for coming on, Sippin' and Sellin. You and I are gonna vibe later. We're gonna be singing together, have some fun, and I'm gonna be drinking this Dow later on tonight, too. Thank you so much for that gift.

SPEAKER_02 53:30

I'm gonna be drinking this Cas420.

SPEAKER_01 53:33

Cask 420, it's rum, it's from Puerto Rico. Puerto Ricans, rum infused with spices and so there is no Delta 9, 8, cannabinoids, nothing. It's just for mouthfeel.

SPEAKER_02 53:44

I mean, if there was, I'm not complaining.

SPEAKER_01 53:46

I was just I was just curious. That's okay. Well, guys, thanks so much for tuning in to another episode. And if this was your first episode because you were here to check out Kaz and to catch a vibe with us, thanks for tuning in. I appreciate you. And I will speak to you next time.

SPEAKER_00 54:02

See ya.

SPEAKER_01 54:02

Bye.